"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism
as it is a merge of state and corporate power."
by:
Benito Mussolini
(1883-1945), Italian dictator during WW2
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http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html
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I could not describe what is happening in the USA any better!
 -- Harry, Grand Rapids MI		 
Too true...
 -- Liz, Atlanta		 
I love it, but unfortunately, it's most likely not true. Public Eye, a progressive watchdog organization did research, and could not find any documented proof that Mussolini said this: http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html Shame, I was so ready to slap it on a t-shirt!
 -- Carl, Chicago		 
Thanks, Carl. The quote source has been re-classified as 'Questionable'.
 -- Editor, Liberty Quotes		 
 -- Anonymous 
All societies are in league with their "private businesses". Society and business that work against each other is counterproductive. If a business does not perform a useful function it will disappear. The issue in "state capitalism" is in how decisions are made. We are now seeing a merger of state (society) and corporate power in the effort to go to alternative energy. Unfortunately Fascism was much more than Benito's simple formulation.
 -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas		 
If Benito didn't say this , he should have. It's exactly what fascism is. Harry of Grand Rapids is right.
 -- jim k, austin		 
Corporations are creations and entities of the state. Much like church and state, business and state should be separated. It is government's job to administer law (including laws concerning fiscal matters, theft, nobility of life, rights, etc.) and justice. It is when government mingles with business that fascism acts against the individual sovereign - energy and financing are but 2 examples. I converted my natural gas furnace to run alcohol that I made from potatoes in a solar still. Next I'm going to convert my furnace to run on hydrogen from water. I'm currently running my car on gas and water (hydrogen converter) and am planning on setting up a generator for my home that runs purely on hydrogen from water (I have a neighbor that is doing it now) Corporate fascism, supported by state dumbing down propaganda, has made the individual and society dependent on its manipulations and tyranny - killing (by force where necessary) individual / independent power sources.
 -- Mike, Norwalk		 
This Mussolini DID say: "The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State -- a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values -- interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people. ... The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State. ... State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management." -- Benito Mussolini, 1935, Fascism: Doctrine and Institutions.
 -- E Archer, NYC		 
Mike, what hydrogen converter are you using and what hydro generator do you recommend? We are using solar and bio-diesel but are intrigued with the latest personal hydro power devices now showing up. If you've got something that is proven to be working, I am interested. Thanks in advance.
 -- E Archer, NYC		 
To E Archer: There is something similar at work here in AK. http://savefuelak.com/
 -- RKA, Wasilla, AK		 
My car is still in experimental mode. I've found much better units than mine. I went from 22mpg on my mini SUV to about 30. It is basically stainless steel plates in a PVC tube - kinda like a battery. It works well on desiel (bio or otherwise) engines also. I'll keep you informed. You can google 'water for gas' and start from there. The neighbor is using several banks of converters, then compressing it into propane tanks. He then has some sort of modified propane carburetor on his in-line 6 cyl car engine hooked up to a generator. Sovereigns really need to become independent of the corporate power grid.
 -- Mike, Norwalk		 
A corporation is simply the coming together of inidviudals (stockholders) in a united effort. A corporation is under law a "person". Because stockholders come and go at will the underlying human face or humanity of the corporation changes and it seems to have a life of its own. But it is still "a person", except with the salient feature/ability to raise large amounts of money and do big things. Mike you are wrong about them being "creations and entities" of the state. States reconginze and acknowledge their creation just like they acknowledge a humans birth but anyone can form a corporation almost at will. I could start one tomorrow and be the 100% stockholder. One of the 50 states would recognize it. The US Govt simply accepts the existance based on state law.
 -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas		 
Mike my diesel F250 ways 8800 lbs. and gives me 26 miles to the gallon at 46 miles per hour.
 -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas		 
Waffler, corporations are bifurcations of title with the state being the equitable creator. What you've described is the lawful half of the bifurcation. Just because you don't understand the fundamentals of the issue and are mostly right in your limited explanation, does not make me wrong. Discussions on the 16th Amendment prior to its implementation talked about impacting such state entities as corporations. That's great about your truck. One of the people I'm working with is running a little over 30 mpg at 80 mph, fully loaded, with his diesel Ford (and its much cleaner, better for the environment).
 -- Mike, Norwalk		 
It does well describe all western governments at this time in history. And Waffler's point is correct. The reverse of that point is this....when you're government calls YOU a Person it is referring to the "corporate" you. The you who is government property, the you who's posessions can be disposed of almost at will by your owners...the you who can be taxed without (genuine) representation. That's what a "person" is, so always refer to yourself as an individual. Because that's what you really are. :)
 -- J Carlton, Calgary		 
J individuals are persons and persons are individuals. The US Tax code says "there shall be a tax on any individual who". Some argue that they are not an individual but a person. The dictionary defines a person as an individual and vice a versa. I disagee with your construction Mike. The state is not a co-creator just a recognizer of the facts on the ground, alas, "a new corporation has come into being". They may however, I agree, estop or deny an incorporation that is for the purpose of performing any illegal act.
 -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas		 
Waffler, I understand your position. You can only accept half truths because, the rest of the story, doesn't allow for your immoral despotism of choice. Your comments do make good banter and, helps afford an education for those who have only seen or heard the despots sound bites.
 -- Mike, Norwalk		 
I don't know what the hell you are talking about Mike, but that is not unusual. Fascism is usually contrasted with Communism. Under communism the "state" owned everything. Under fascism the "state" formed links to corporations to assert its will. Hitler with German industrialists etc. The problems wtih both systems is the same as the problem we have with many of the views on this site , both systems were undemocratic. Your posts don't make good banter and are usually an exercise in stupidity. Exeercise is good for the mind so if it helps you keep it up but it is not helpful to anyone else, stop kidding yourself.
 -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas		 
..laughs.. well, at least Waffler acknowledges that he doesn't understand what's being talked about.
 -- Logan, Memphis, TN		 
It doesn't matter WHO said it, it's true...and that it's been more prominent under a so-called conservative administration is rather interesting. I doubt the fools in charge even recognize what they've done. In fact, I doubt most of us understand the reality of what's happened in the last month and who is responsible.
 -- A.Jurgensen, Stuart, FL		 
For all practical purposes Fascism and Communism are the same. Total control of every thing by the state.
 -- warren, olathe		 
You people really need a dictionary. Communism is not "everything owned by the state" the concept of communism is "everything owned by the people" It is the penultimate liberal democratic ideal. The real dirty trick "they" pull on "us" is that fascism is also a liberal ideal, going back for decades: If people own the corporations and the corporations are in bed with the state the fascism is the same as communism. Either way we all get sceed.
 -- Alex, Santa Barbara		 
 -- LUIS 
are there any quotes about mussolini out there in the world my assessment is due 2morrow
 -- sally, nowhwere		 
 
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