"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."
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Michael Rivero
(1952- ) Composer, production engineer
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wow, said very well
 -- Mike, Norwalk
 
And we see it all around us. And, it takes great courage to stand against it. Even the strongest falter.Time eats away at the man who fights it.
 -- anon, anon
 
 -- Elwood S. Grant, Richmond Corner 
the quote has some truth but fails to tell the whole story. In the US the government is us. Generally speaking us is a fair and just entity but of course errors occurr and attempts at putting our best foot forward and leaving the other behind are made. Individuals often want to dwell on the errors rather than the successes. Taking the Tillman affair for example, a sad case inddeed. While we have put al qaeda and the Taliban on the run, one of our most famous fighters gets killed by an error of our own, friendly fire. The military and the White House tries to drag this foot behind and continue the best foot forward mentality. In this case I think "they" W should have found a better way of handling it. When a person makes mistakes in the process of doing a job for you but corrects them do you look at the mistakes or the final correctly completed job. We are not perfect thus are government is not perfect but as Churchill said it is the best ever conceived - democracy that is!
 -- Waffler, Smith
 
"Most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker" but it works pretty well with folks like Waffler. This is one great quote.
 -- jim k, Austin,Tx
 
This aphorism may be the clearest, the most well written summary of the most important problem with government. Wow. I think it would be even more powerful if the last sentence was removed. It is not wrong, it just makes the reader wonder if government is that smart. That question distracts from the impact of the main point. Walt
 -- Walter Clark, Fullerton California
 
Waffler, I'd say the reason there was no interest in your post is because everybody is sick and tired of your petty responses when it comes to democracy vs Republic
 -- Anon
 
 -- Nick 
A well explained reason why people put up with a corrupt and lying government. I think whatever department has put Waffler on its payroll to 'debunk' arguments for liberty should find a more intelligent replacement... he brings a new meaning to the word 'stooge.'
 -- E Archer, NYC
 
"but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."...A more accurate description would be hard to find.
 -- J Carlton, Calgary
 
This is exactly what's been going on in this country since the 60's. I think the Tea Party phenomena is the first inklings that America is waking up and is sick and tired of the same old crap. They have even put Republicans on notice that their feet will be held to the fire and they will not be able to masquerade as conservatives while they are actually liberals. No more RINOs.
 -- GunnyCee, Durham
 
Anon get use to it I will argue the Republic vs Democray dichotomy (look it up) tell Hell Freezes Over. That there are still people who think there is a dichotomy is amazing to me. America is a republic that is a democracy, North Korea is a republic that is a dictatorship, Get a new vocabulary Anon. If it weren't for me you guys would only be kissing each others derrieres all day. Is that what you are really looking for in a blog site. Why not just stayed tuned to Rush all day and keep your mouths shut, and you might be better off and happy thinking all the world thinks like. Well they don't and November will prove it. The Tea Party candidates have already gone down in flames in many primaries. Lets face it when Obama won you all decided to be miserable for the length of his term. Well you have a year and a half to go at minimum and I would bet more like 5 and 1/2 years.
 -- Waffler, Smith
 
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government." -- Constitution for the United States, Art. IV, 1789. The word 'democracy' does not appear in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence or any State Constitution. "The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind." -- Jefferson, 1790. The Electoral College proves that the USA is NOT a democracy -- yes, there is voting in a republican government, but some things are not within the jurisdiction of the government to vote on, like the inalienable rights of humankind. Anon, I think it would be more helpful to your argument to not call the USA 'a republic' but that the 'form of government is republican' -- there is a difference as the word 'republic' is used by many communist countries as well. It should be remembered, though, that 'republics' within the USA include the sovereign States (like the 'California Republic'). A republican form of government is administered by our fellow man to mutually protect each others rights and property strictly limited by Law and not the passions of majorities. The American republican form of government is an attempt to balance the traditional political powers of a nation, that is monarchical, aristocratical, and democratical -- either one on their own is a form of despotism, and no matter how we try, we cannot get rid of one or place one above the other -- all these powers must be balanced and limited by the rights of the sovereign individuals who have chartered their own government. All of politics is one of these classes trying to overpower the other. Until the consciousness of humankind evolves to more enlightened levels, the form of our governments must be one that strictly limits what these power houses can do. We have not given them carte blanche, no matter how much they say we have. The power-hungry must be kept in check, and to blindly trust one's political party and their minions is foolish -- another reason why America should never fully embrace complete democracy, as the poorer masses will eventually vote away the property of their betters and thus prevent true republican governance. Marx was all for democracy, for this very reason. Essentially, the US has become a one-party system, and that is exactly what communism was all about.
 -- E Archer, NYC
 
The guarantee is to the States, not to the Federal Government. The goverment granted to the Feds, is what The Constitution says and no where does it say that a repbulican form is guaranteed to the Feds. What is guaranteed to the Feds is a President, Senate, House, and Supreme Court etc. The Feds do via the FBI constanly investigate, indict, and prosecute, political crimes in the States to insure that a republican form continues there. There has never been a State King or dynasty ever extablished in a state or city. Thus the republican form, that is a form "of, by, and for the people" has continued to this day. "Of, by, and for" is also the definition of democracy. The USA is a republic that is a democracy and under the Constitution its political subdivisons must tow that line. The words republic and democracy are not at all opposites.
 -- Waffler, Smith
 
 -- Roland, Bonner's Ferry 
 
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