"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
by:
Max Stirner
[Johann Kaspar Schmidt] (1806-1856) German philosopher
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Having been beaten bloody by the police state's finest (offering ZERO resistance) gives me first hand knowledge of the quote's absolute accuracy. A thumbs down for the tyrant's police state, 5 stars for accuracy.
 -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    The STATE, is power driven & abusive.
     -- Valerie Nixon, Richmond VA     
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     -- Mary - MI      
     -- watchman13, USA      
     -- jim k, austin tx      
    Fact.
     -- YES, FL     
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    The individual must come to terms with being part of the state and let their voice be heard and influence it's destiny.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Sillik, is that your best Hitler representation? It is pretty good.
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Mike,, Norwalk, Hitler had girls, boys, firearms, high political standing, bombs, belonged to destructive organizations, exactly like you. I have none of these. Who is this Hitler's true representative?
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Sillik, you are here, the only admitted plural that acknowledges to being a destructive organization. As to who is Hitler's true representative  that would be you. You continually paraphrase his ultimate principles and parrot his quotes. The only differences between the two of you is procedure in securing the same end game / outcome.
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Mike,, Norwalk, No vast organization, no vast armaments, totally different personality and moral character between Mr Hitler and myself, the differences are universes away from each other. Your psychological ineptitude, not to be able to observe this would definitely enable you more time in the psychiatric ward sir, sadly. We must have proper mental health in our citizens.  Socialism is the challenge of social abilities to create mental health.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Hey, Fred, do the following statements accurately reflect your idea of socialism?  If not, how would you rephrase them?

    1. Society's needs come before the individual's needs.

    2. It is thus necessary that the individual should finally come to realize that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of the nation, that the position of the individual is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole.

    3. The unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual; and that the higher interests involved in the life of the whole must here set the limits and lay down the duties of the interests of the individual.


     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Fred, I am still waiting on the answer to my questions above.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    1. No. Society's needs and the individual's needs are one and the same.
    2. No. The social individual  understands their true worth and value, embellishing and enhancing all of life and simply don't identify society as the enemy.
    3. No. The nation valves the true individual for their valuable contributions and would never set limits on revolutionary insights.



     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Mr Archer, I have to admit I am not a psychotic like you and everyone else. Society's members are vastly sick and I intend to repair the situation.  To respond, as you appear to do, that I don't need society is just irrational. I need society, a society needs me. Socialism is the challenge of social abilities to create a rational society. 
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Thank you, Fred.  That clarifies some things, but I am still a bit confused.

    What is a "social individual"?  What's the difference between an individual and a social individual?

    Since the nation/society is made up of individuals, how can a "nation" value anything?  How could a nation "set limits"?  And what are "revolutionary insights"?



     -- E Archer, NYC     
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