Vladimir Ilyich Lenin Quote 

"While the State exists, there can be no freedom.
When there is freedom there will be no State."

by:
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
[Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov] (1870 - 1924), First Leader of the Soviet Union
Source:
"State and Revolution", 1919
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The two are orthogonal...
 -- Anonymous, Reston, VA US
 
Regardless of how you choose to describe the relationship ... diametrically opposed, orthogonal, inverse, opposite, reversed, upside down, etc. ... more government = less freedom ... less government = more freedom. Liberals love to change the meaning of words to suit their purpose.
 -- Joe, Rochester, MI
 
 -- jiff, liverpool 
Another of history's gibbering idiots heard from.
 -- Eric, Wichita, KS
 
Eric, you've made me smile, I agree. Also, said well Joe. In the de jure U. S. republic a limited state is freedom.
 -- Mike, Norwalk
 
5 stars for telling the absolute truth. No country on Earth has yet achieved ideal Freedom or an ideal State. I guess that is the endless unfolding drama of civilization. With no State, the individual is self-governing and thus required to voluntarily uphold the virtues (please don't confuse 'virtues' with 'religion') that support Liberty for all -- a utopian ideal for sure, but what the hey, it's still worth shooting for. ;-)
 -- E Archer, NYC
 
It is fascinating the parallels with the extreme right wing in the USA
 -- Howard, New York
 
Its blunt and the truth. We must admire the dictators honesty. Today the left hides those desires and is sneaky about that truth.
 -- dave, mn
 
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