"Let me get this straight. For the past quarter-century or more, the central government has been stealing hundreds of billions of dollars each year from competent, hard-working, successful people and giving it to incompetent, lazy failures. As a result, middle-class America has increasingly been impoverished while the poor are even poorer. Now come calls for reforming the system, and liberals are denouncing reformers in the vilest language. What planet did you say liberals are from?"
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Paul Thiel
(1964- ) American financial journalist, investment manager
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letter to The Cincinnati Enquirer.
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With anything that is heavily invested in for decades, the likelihood of growth is pretty well assured. Thus poverty, tyranny, overall unraveling of commerce, immorality, atheistic socialism,,governmental larceny with impunity, despotism and war(s) are increasing exponentially. What planet did you say liberals and conservatives are from?
 -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Aren't liberal and reformer synonynomous?
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Not when one is trying to reform a liberal program.  'Liberal' doesn't even mean liberal anymore, it means statist.  And statist programs are in need of reform as soon as they are implemented.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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     -- E Archer, NYC      
    Mr Archer, 
          Both a reformer and liberal are defined by change. You have no such creature in your conventional world. You just have meaningless labels. Socialism is the idea that we use our social abilities to change the world.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    The root of the word liberal is liberalis (suitable for a freeman, generous) and liber (free).  A person who is liberal is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways.  To be free is to be unrestrained in form, the only 'reformation' is from being in a state of restriction to being unrestricted.

    The classical liberal is ever standing up against claims upon his person, labors and property.  The American republican form of government is based on classical liberalism — republicans are true liberals.

    To 'reform' is the method to one's freedom.  Once free, the liberal protects his freedom — so the liberal is also a conservative.  A liberal is a freeman, and to maintain that freeman status the person must take responsibility for it and act in its defense against so-called 'reformers' with designs on him.

    Today's "liberal" reformers are but followers of the religion of Power, to "eat the rich" and "burn it down."  Their goal is not Liberty but subservience and perpetual 'service' to the State.  THAT is socialism, so say the socialists themselves.  They call that "equity" and apparently the freeman must give up his liberty to make things "fair."


     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Mr Archer, 
          I'm sorry I don't know how to respond to what you have just posted. I was, however, wondering if you would change course and join me in a little exchange in regard to an examination of the present state of affairs. Can you possibly describe a specific problem our nation faces at this point and time? Is there any specific flaws in the American system that you observe? Can you share some kind of criticism of nation's strategy or approach? Please!
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    I would prefer to address your numerous posts on the benefits of socialism where they are.  You seem confused:
    "Socialism is the idea that we use our social abilities to change the world."
    What dictionary did this come from?
    "You just have meaningless labels."
    The labels of liberal or reformer are not meaningless, as I have explained..
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Mr Archer, 
    When I was younger there was what individuals called the cold war.  The Union Soviet Socialists Republic vs the good ole US of America. Well the USSR claimed Socialism and built many nuclear weapons.  The United States claimed freedom and democracy and built many nuclear weapons.  Both eventual built enough to destroy all life many times over.  This dementia ridden perspective made me look to other sources for freedom,  democracy,  Socialism. The brand of Socialism I present to you comes the heart and soul of one man. That man is Fredrick William Sillik and his human heart and soul dictionary.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Correction: 
    Mr Archer, 
         The brand of Socialism I present to you propagates from the heart and soul of one individual. That individual is Fredrick William Sillik and his heart and soul dictionary.  Socialism is idea we use our social abilities to sustain life.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Good for you, Fred.  As long as "your brand" of socialism does not lay claim to my labors, body, property or family and respects the natural born rights of humankind, then you can lead whatever socialists club you like.  My heart and soul is for Freedom, not democracy, and I have plenty to give without your brand of socialism's compulsion.  Hitler had a "brand" of socialism that came right from his heart and soul, too, so did Lenin, Mussolini, Castro, and Mao.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Fred, I invite you to consider that what "propagates from the heart and soul of one individual" is his philosophy.  If your philosophy differs from socialism (as commonly defined in political science), I suggest giving it a different name that helps highlight a key component of the idea "we use our social abilities to sustain life."  Pick a name that describes that idea.  (The word "socialism" is already taken.)  What social abilities? What sustenance? 
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Mr Archer,
          My Socialism is correct simply because your idea of it comes from the Psychotic dictionary. In my case the name is correct, just this time the architect has a balanced mind.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Mr Archer, 
         "Lay claim to your labors." I don't agree with Karl Marx a lot, but he was right when he claims the only item you produce is your grave diggers.  Socialism will make you productive for first time in your life.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Sorry Mr Archer, 
          Socialism is Socialism. It was the wrong phrasing on my part to say my brand. I'm the only one that defines it in my view. 
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    In your Socialist world, am I free and responsible for my actions?  Do I owe you anything?
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Actually the definitions are from the Merriam-Webster dictionary.  You still haven't explained what "social abilities' you are referring to and how they sustain life?  If you ever want the rest of the Psychotics to get it, you're going to have to explain what you mean, as you have already made clear that you apply your own meanings to words.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    You're free to practice humanism. Humans are naturally responsible.  You owe it to everyone to produce a vital piece of  the  human tapestry that ensures the survival of the species.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Who says what I am free to practice?  When you say "I owe to everyone..." do you mean that I ought to be productive if I want to help ensure the species, or I will be compelled to be productive by some authority or regulation? 

    So far, if voluntary, you are describing a free and responsible people  not socialism by any stretch.  Most of the so-called socialists I know who say the world has really never implemented real socialism seem to be describing the principles of Christianity, but their secular attempt at ignoring "God" comes up short.  Rather than acknowledge the mystery, the Science is always settled with these folks.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Mr Archer, 
         I  believe to be really free you  must produce or you will be under some oppressive regulatory sweat shop. You sell yourself short Mr Archer because when you really start to produce the whole planet will feel the strength and vitality of Mr E. Archer, NYC.
         Socialism has been implemented with the discovery of the Socialist, Mr Fredrick William Sillik.  God is just another scheme to trick you out of your freedom and productivity.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Continuing Mr. Archer,
          Humans put into their natural state are kind, decent, caring individuals. They've been diverted from their natural impulses by a materialist world that has made them a lifeless object.  Rejuvenating their authentic social being status will put Humans on the correct path for health and vitality.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    I agree with you (mostly).  But it sounds more like Capitalism than Socialism.  Just saying.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Yes, what a wonderful world.  What is the problem?  It seems your version of socialism is voluntary for its own sake.  So not really statist or collectivist, just a bunch of people who respect me as I respect them.  They lay no claim to me or my labors.  Mutual cooperation by agreement.  Sounds good.  Not socialism though.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    “Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses. ... Work hard, increase production, prevent accidents, and be happy.”
    ~ Big Brother

    George Lucas's movie, THX 1138


     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    " God Socialism is just another scheme to trick you out of your freedom and productivity." 
    There, fixed it for you.  It is knowing the truth that sets you free.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Does not the word social dominate the word Socialism? Is it not the base of the word? For anything to succeed you must have basic human skills of cooperation, fair agreement, and the ability to socially interact to bring life forward. Once the basic  human understanding is reached resource allocation will take care of itself.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Mr Archer, sorry to not include your name in last post.
          Your expressions of life,  Christianity, capitalism are just cosmetic expressions of crime.   
    All you conventional folks do is complicate life so you can avoid criminal detection.  Your whole society lives in the promotion of criminal misdeeds and  and therefore have acquired the inability to converse on a reasonable basis.  Crime is predicated on unreasonableness.  Responsibility and order are predicated on reason.  Social abilities cannot be ignored understand any conditions.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Correction:
    Mr Archer:Social abilities cannot be ignored under any conditions.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Frederick William Sillik, Mr. Archer’s comments are far deeper and more accurate than any of your erroneous word salad. Your redefining of words to fit your immature dynamic doesn’t begin to associate to any reality but your own mental derangement. By an extremely terse example; The de jure jurisprudence of the States united was to be “the laws of nature and of nature’s God” (Declaration of Independence). Such administration of “law” is of absolutes (science, gravity, math, life, liberty, property, etc.). Codes, ordinances, regulations, rules, statutes, etc. at “nature” (and the laws thereof), are to place in order laws that already exist (for man's expansion / expressions of individual sovereignty, inalienable rights, liberty and justice). At “nature”, man can NOT create law - carnal man can create despotism and tyranny.

    Legal Positivism is an arbitrary exercise at public law; “An arbitrary law is one made by the legislator simply because he wills it, and is not founded in the nature of things;” (Bouvier’s Law Dictionary) – Legal Positivism is most often “used in opposition to natural law” (Bouvier’s Law Dictionary - “law” derived from nature; is expressed through Hebrew natural law; - / - while, both the Hebrew and academically accepted philosophy of natural law here fit the subject matter’s definition)

    Your diatribe on “crime” is couched in a cosmetic expression of Legal Positivism - NOT, science or nature’s reality. In the real world, “A crime is an offense against a public law.” (Bouvier’s Law Dictionary)

    OK, I admit it, I had to laugh almost uncontrollable while shaking my lowered head at your “inability to converse on a reasonable basis” :-), ;-), :-). - I also admit it is many of my offenses against public law that gives me the ability to converse on a reasonable basis - Mr. Archer will probably agree with my opinion. Responsibility and order MAY be predicated on reason within an enclave of Legal Positivism and/or a domain of absolutes such as the laws of nature. Your being lost in the ethos with all your self created definitions doesn’t fare well in any expression of “reason”. 


     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Mr Mike, Norwalk,
         Nice to receive you correspondence again. Your saying God is built on a foundation of reason?  Your saying you and your fellow gangster dangerous criminal buddy Mr Archer are right and I am wrong? Not surprising. Why don't we invite the God fellow to contribute a post to liberty tree.ca. If a lower intelligent species like myself can type up some nonsense why can't the "creator of things" at least type one "blessed" letter of the alfebet.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    I'm NOT saying God is built on a foundation of reason! Thank you, I like the nomenclature  "gangster" / a gangster(s) illuminating error. "God fellow"? How about you invite "reason" or reason fellow to contribute a post?  Maybe the reason God you reference could get together and offer up a post?
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Archer, Sillik just called you a "God". What do you think? Considering the source, is that a promotion or, a demotion?


     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Thanks for the interpretation Mike, Norwalk, from Mr Archer's post. I'm just an average adult, never the prodigious children like you fellows were and to me still are. "I think, therefore I exist." Gods don't exist only in the mind of the uneducated. So its not a demotion or  promotion, just a typical insult.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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