"Truth does not become more true by virtue of the fact
that the entire world agrees with it,
nor less so even if the whole world disagrees with it."
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Maimonides
(1135-1204) Jewish philosopher
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I never cease to be amazed at the wisdom that is available to us if we somehow know of it. The eternal mystery is our ongoing attempts to achieve perfection even as we are ignorant of all the information that thinkers in the past have sent along. The Internet is perhaps the greatest inovation since moveable type. Suddenly, we can speak to the world and listen to it. This man was ready for that over 800 years ago.
 -- J. B. Wulff, Bristol, CT		 
 -- Anon 
One of the traits of natural law as was accepted by the founders and implemented through the Constitution. One of the traits that demonstrates why democracy, socialism and its many derivatives (communism, fascism, progressivism, etc.), etc. are most efficient systems in implementing and enforcing despotism. One of the traits that exposes the tyranny of statist theocracies.
 -- Mike, Norwalk		 
Truth is absolute neither good or evil can change it - it has nothing to do with natural law or God, it is unto itself omnipotent . Mike, the far-right and corporate America, OK, and the banks, are the socialists of all time - and they are trying to keep their little secret. Their intention is world dominance and they will stop at nothing to achieve it. Mussolini said it best and he should know "A merger of state and corporate powers" - if you wish, socialism's egalitarianism. Here are the traits that expose your hypocrisy: ultra-nationalism, isolationism, contempt for human rights, disdain for civilized dialogue, disparity between the have and have-nots, intolerance, contempt for education, the merger of state and the corporatist's, military on steroids, military calling the shots, contempt for human rights, mobs influenced for right-wing agendas/lies, religious fundamentalism, corporate corruption (and no one is doing anything about it because they would bite the hand that feeds them), inciting public fear over bogus red flag operations, the merging of the two party system, corporate control of the media, no action taken against corporate criminals, doing away with Habeas Corpus, control by the banks, and the list goes on. Our real enemies are religious fundamentalism, the far-right wing of the republican party, and the fascists (see definition above).
 -- RBESRQ		 
Robert, fyi; Natural law is absolute, neither good nor evil, and nothing on earth can change it. Some early philosophers defined natural law as being based on morals, virtue, right / wrong and other interpretive abstracts. Such allowing government to do whatever it desired as long as they could tie it to good, virtue, etc. (exampled by the current liberals, neo-cons, and statist theocracy). As modified from Blackstone, the American founders set forth that natural law was the foundation from which morals, virtue, good / evil, etc. were to be interpreted from. The original intent was that only law could be legislated, not morals, virtue, good / evil, what corporeal man thinks should be, etc. (those were religious subjects). By way of example: if you step off a cliff and fall to your death, the law of gravity there involved is not moral, virtuous, good or evil - it just is. The earth spins and rotates around the sun to create periods of light / day - dark / night, summer / winter, etc. (codes - statutes based on natural law make daylight savings time, street lights come on during certain conditions, etc.) - If you spend more than you are capable of paying back, for what ever reason, you become bankrupt. These three examples are based on natural law, not morality, virtue, good / evil etc. Man, for his benefit, then uses the law and passes appropriate codes, statutes, etc. The Constitution was written so that the only thing the government could do was that which was specifically stated within the 4 corners of the document (at law / natural law / positive law, the law of nature or of nature's God, etc.) If you would rather be governed by somebody's definition of moral, virtuous, good / evil, most of the world will accommodate you. I choose to live by a law that defines truth and is not moral virtuous, good / evil, etc. but just is. Robert; READ THIS: you are absolutely correct about the far right / neo-cons, that they are the fascist arm of socialism. The far left / liberalism represents the communist arm of socialism that is trying to take over the world. Your dialog represents most liberals and neo-cons of today's squabbling within the statist theocracy. I too am intensely opposed to those items of your dialog.
 -- Mike, Norwalk		 
The real enemy is anyone or anything that seeks to control the free choice decision of anyone and the only laws that are just are those that punish those that use that free choice right to harm another in any way shape or form, right wing, left wing or anything in between included.
 -- Anon		 
Mike, you know only too well that Natural Law is theory - Good Anon
 -- RBESRQ		 
Robert? what? Are you saying the 3 natural laws I just gave are theories. What does that make the codes - statutes based on such law?
 -- Mike, Norwalk		 
Everyone thinks their beliefs are the 'truth.' Few are honest enough to admit that they really don't know. What is, is, no matter whether we are aware of it or not.
 -- E Archer, NYC		 
Absolutely. And empirical data is our best recourse to seek the truth.
 -- Elisabeth, Astoria, NY		 
Sadly while it may not become less true if everyone disagrees with it, some of the truths we held self evident are largely being sacrificed on the altar of "public opinion" expressed by a biased press. Even sadder is that this "public opinion" is held dearer than obvious truth even in the face of actual overwhelming public outcry.
 -- Todd, Las Vegas		 
Isn't that the plain truth?
 -- David Ben-Ariel, Toledo		 
 
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