"Law logic -- an artificial system of reasoning,
exclusively used in courts of justice,
but good for nothing anywhere else."
by:
John Quincy Adams
(1767-1848) 6th US President
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 -- warren, olathe      
Aside from their lack of virtue, lawyers are universally hated because of their obstinate use of law logic.
 -- Richard, Chesterfield     
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    In a government of men, as is averse to a government of law, the emphasis here being the 'logic of carnal man's justice courts' (as here referenced, that being outside natural law).
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Over 90% of those in congress are lawyers, a distressing thought. Perhaps this could explain the mess we are in.
     -- jim k, austin tx     
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    Lawyers to temp and conceal knowledge. Can you imagine the conversations around Washington's and our founding fathers tables. Knowing the trappings of a lawyers tongue. Woe unto you, lawyers ! for you have taken away the key of knowledge: ye inter not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. Some have been fishing lately for answers, concerning the Kingdom of God. It is within the individual. I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou has hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast reveled them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. This in one accord with Psalm 8:2, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thy enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger. God creates the hearing ear, and the seeing eye. no place to hide. the Lord has given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned. As also Washington spoke of Gods hand which gave him strength of conviction. His face was like a flint before congress, commanding obedience to his sounding resolve and presence of mind. Therefore I plant seed among the learned if by chance, there be among you, one with the lack of malice in their heart. A few lawyers were used in the defense of liberty and freedom, in the sacred text. Who is that just and good man or woman seeking to inter in rather than hinder the cause of true Liberty and Freedom ordained by God for his purpose ? Wisdom is justified of her children. So true a quote as never said before ! Strait and to the point ! Tempered with the Love of Christ ( which passeth knowledge ), and compassion, the peace of God which passeth understanding. Filled with all the fullness of God were our Founding fathers ! Seeing farther than the children can comprehend. The word ( lawyers ) is used 5 times in a King James Bible. 5 is the number of death.
     -- watchman13, USA     
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    Please, watchman, I have asked you in the past to keep your remarks to the quotes. How about some of your own words instead of all this old English prophecy. This is not the forum for proselytizing, and your posts are always long 'sermons' quoting chapter and verse from the Bible. Please give us a break - I am the Editor and I will start editing. Keep it short and sweet please - and to the point. We got it - God, Jesus, the Bible. Tell us something we don't know. Consider that nearly every one of your posts is 3 or 4 times longer than anyone else's - how about toning it back a bit. No one here wants or needs to be preached to - it is a sign of arrogance and self-righteousness. By all means, share your own experiences, but enough with the preaching. This is a moderated forum, and I am moderating. Enough is enough. Thank you.
     -- Editor, Liberty Quotes     
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    Well at lest the pot is boiling. Most can never stand the heat in the kitchen anyway. To spur the thought in people to think outside of the box. Compassion for liberty and freedom brings change. It is more than words. It is heart. Thank you for your chastisement. Many of you should be preaching, but don't.
     -- watchman13, USA     
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    ;-) Too funny, watchman -- parroting Catholic dogma is hardly thinking outside the box -- it is TOTALLY in the box.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Many use the word of God for deception, but I do stand upon the doctrines of liberty and freedom afforded me, by my God.
    2 Tim 2:15 requires that we separate doctrines of oppression from the doctrines of liberty and freedom, Peter and Paul's gospels. 2 is the number of separation, rightly dividing the word of truth, shows one where to take your stand if you wish to be freed from oppression and doubt. Removing ones self from the denomination religious secs that control the largest mind set in the country and a majority of the ( Christian world ). For those in the denominational systems, to separate themselves from their religious sec, would set them at odds with friends and family. This is not funny when one makes lite of truth, but only goes to show where the point is made to show. If you think my quotes come from the vulgate, look again in your library for the KJB, then you will have the right book. Not to degrade, but one has to trust the source text. I do not play with understanding, but am a steward of the mysteries. We all grow over time but some never grow up, which has been my experience to teach these truths to the cream of the croup, among those jockeying for position with in our association, I am purpose built to show doubt and where it exist within the people who desire position. Its not a spot that makes friends, but I serve nonetheless .
     -- watchman13, USA     
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    "If the evidence is correct and no logical errors have been made, a 13th Amendment restricting lawyers from serving in government was ratified in 1819 and removed from US Constitution during the tumult of the Civil War. Since the Amendment was never lawfully repealed, it is still the Law today. The implications are enormous."

    David M. Dodge, Researcher
    Date 08/01/91
    "TITLES OF NOBILITY" AND "HONOUR"

    In the winter of 1983, archival research expert David Dodge, and former Baltimore police investigator Tom Dunn, were searching for evidence of government corruption in public records stored in the Belfast Library on the coast of Maine.
    By chance, they discovered the library's oldest authentic copy of the Constitution of the United States (printed in 1825). Both men were stunned to see this document included a Thirteenth Amendment that no longer appears on current copies of the Constitution. Moreover, after studying the Amendment's language and historical context, they realized that the principal intent of this "missing" Thirteenth Amendment was to prohibit Attorneys of the Bar Associations from serving in government as an "elite" class, i.e., lawyers holding membership in a society with a charter that creates special privileges for the them. The Founders experience was that such men always have divided loyalties and conflict of interest.

     -- vexari, VA     
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