Aahhh yes, welcome to Amerika, the new Democratic Socialist Union (the DSU). Welcome to eminent domain run a muck where the mere mention of freedom, liberty, or representative republic are heresies against our sovereign union lord. -- Mike, Norwalk
Well that stands to reason, coming from a "National Socialist Dictator". The fact is, when individuals are able to meet their own needs, they are of the greatest benefit first to themselves and then society in general. We aren't "ants" after all.... -- J Carlton, Calgary
Yes Mike, heresies. And just wait til the inquisition really gets going! -- Dan
Apparently he never flew on a commercial airline where they always tell you to connect your air mask first. If we are not a demorcacy what is the point of this and all of the other blogs and talk shows. If we cannot change things at all we are insane to participate in this exercise. If you don't believe we are a democracy in the western tradition of free speech and public opinion polls what is the point of you trying to influence other people. -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas
This sounds an awful lot like Hillary"It Takes a Village" Clinton , and Barack "Can't say his middle name" Obama. -- jim k, austin
Isn't it funny how the dictator always knows what society needs too? As always, when a socialist official takes away your choice "for the good of society" it always seems to work out better for him than society. Individuals make up society. Without the individual, what is the point of society? -- Ken, Allyn, WA
DEMOCRACY: My college history book "A History of Civilization" by Brinton, Christopher, and Wolff, Prentice Hall has the following chapters XXI "The Western Democracies in the 19th Century" XXVIII "The Democracies, 1919-1939." The former chapter starts with these words, "We shall now trace the background history of the major self-governing western states: Great Britain, France, Italy, and the United States. These are now all democracies; and though they have all had their moments-sometimes years-of lapsing from democratic standards, they are all, as the twentieth-century world goes, "old democracies." Now this book was copywrited in 1955 way before the current political correctness foisted on us by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and aided and abetted by the non-thinking Logans (aka Mr. Academia), Archers (Mr. Fed Reserve), and Mikes (Mr.Victimless Crime) of the world. These dictators of language. Archer says he will take over the world by redefining language. Not unlike Hitler who wanted to burn all of the books and kill all the smart guys. Well I am holding on to my history book and it will always be a defense against your lying ways and political correctness. We are again lapsing it appears with guys like the above mentioned being so gullible. But I like Lincoln have faith that we shall have a new birth of freedom and "government of, by, and for the people" shall not perish, at least not at their hands. -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas
What a mockery on freedom! Society is made up of individuals. If an individuals' need are met, then the societies' need are met. It is utterly disgusting to read these words that come out of the worst human being that ever lived on this planet. Extreme right or extreme left, they both very well know that if an individual is powerful, then the society is powerful, powerful enough to perhaps challenge their authority. Hence, these ubiquitous and mercy ideology of "society" comes in their heinous plans of so called "mass development". Ultimately, these political extremes underling doctrine is divide and rule. If there ever is a true democracy, it would stem out of individual liberty. -- RKA, Wasilla
Waffler, please stay on topic. Put your debate about democracy under a quote that is about that, please. -- Editor, Liberty Quotes
I wonder how many people would give this a thumbs up if they didn't know it was a quote of Hitler's? Great comments! Man, Waffler, give it up already. All you are proving is that our educational institutions have been hijacked by the Left -- old news. By 1955, Wilson had already taken us to war in 1917 to "make the world safe for democracy," Hitler had risen to power via 'democracy,' the US was already bankrupted to the Fed, FDR authorized the theft of the entire money supply -- i.e. the New World Order organized by the central banking emperors had a strong hold on the US, rewriting history to suit. I am not debating democracy again here. Move on like the Editor asks. -- E Archer, NYC
Perfect example of the socialist mindset. Great instructive quote. -- warren, olathe
Waffler, once in a while you almost sound cogent , and then you come up with gibberish like the nonsense above. -- Jim k, austin
Editor, if you will allow me to respond to Waffler's comment, although it is a bit off thread -- you may delete this post if you wish (..smiles.. I won't yell censorship). Waffler, you're an ignorant fool. Your quote proves nothing more than what anyone here has ever said about the evolution of theory, thought, definition, language, ideas (philosophy) and application (laws). I'm surprised you haven't brought up Alexis de Tocqueville's work "Democracy in America" to backup your claims (which would be ignorant, but typical). Early American interpretation of history, philosophy, and reason varied differently than even Europe's (which is where de Tocqueville was born and educated: France). You constantly ignore EVERYTHING the founders have said concerning democracy and republics, restating your own meandering ignorance without anything to show for it but a few current sources. Not surprising that everyone here that purports an American Republic has consistently stated that current definitions of Republics and Democracies are nearly synonymous (unlike when they were originally discussed by the likes of Machiavelli) -- but you keep rehashing the same stupid, irrational, and inane gibberish to try and prove your convoluted shit-theories. As per the quote, it is an amazing glimpse into the mind of a mad-genius. -- Logan, Memphis, TN
-- RobertSRQ
I have accomplished a helluva a lot Logan. The stupidity that "the United States is a republic not a democracy" is repeated throughout this society. I encounter it every day. I will keep asking people to be a little deeper and circumspect about and avoid their BS theories. I am so glad that you are on board. A great improvement in your knowledge and thinking. -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas
Logan's comments are hardly 'on board' with Waffler's. Does Waffler really believe his own BS? Here's a quote I received today: "[W]e are confirmed in the opinion, that the present age would be deficient in their duty to God, their posterity and themselves, if they do not establish an American republic. This is the only form of government we wish to see established; for we can never be willingly subject to any other King than He who, being possessed of infinite wisdom, goodness and rectitude, is alone fit to possess unlimited power." -- Instructions of Malden, Massachusetts for a Declaration of Independence, 27 May 1776 -- E Archer, NYC
Waffler. Can you explain to me why we pledge allegiance to a republic then and not a democracy? If the word means nothing why is it there? I am sure you will be deep and circumspect and avoid BS theories when you answer the questions. Have a nice day. -- Dan
I suppose I should not be surprised that so many respondents feel they are more important than the society as a whole. Fortunately, there are some who would give up their very lives for the sake of others. They are called heroes. A good soldier would willingly, if not gladly, sacrifice his own life to save his unit or his buddies. Where would be today today if our founders had not been willing to jeopardizes their own lives and fortunes for the good of the nation they they were trying to create? It's too bad today everyone feels more important than society at large. Hitler had it right, like him or not. -- Jack, Green, OH
I find it interesting at all the thumbs down on a good quote.
Is it because Obama talks the same way???
Does it hit too close to home??? -- PizzaGod, Republic of Texas
Depends on the needs. -- Anonymous
"Sometimes the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many"~Captain Kirk -- Margaret, Texas
-- Mike, Norwalk
-- warren, olathe
