"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold:
its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.
If we can undermine these three areas,
America will collapse from within."
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Josef Stalin
(1879-1953) Communist leader of the USSR
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I think this is almost prophetic considering what has happened in the USA these last forty-five years or so. The erosion of Americans' patriotism, morality and spiritual life all began in the 1960s with the protests over the war in Vietnam, the anti-establishment (hippie) movement and the 1963 Supreme Court case that removed prayer from schools. (Note: Atheist, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, originally brought that case against her son's, school. That son, Bill became a Christian years ago and leads a Christian foundation that helps oppressed Christians in Russia and elsewhere.) Things have only gotten worse since then with the rise of the practice and widespread acceptance of sex outside of marriage, abortion, homosexual behavior and pornography. The more we abandon the standards of the Bible and the one, true God who created us, the greater chaos we bring upon our country and ourselves. The founders of this great country based our laws on Judeo-Christian principles. But, these are being challenged every day by the ACLU and others who work for one nation under MAN, instead of one nation under God. If they succeed in erradicating God's laws from our lives, we will witness our own demise and ultimately be ruled by tyrants.
 -- E.K., Troy, MI
 
Seig Hiel!
 -- John, Frankfurt
 
Somehow, even then he wrecked up millions of people's lives who did not support him (and also there were some who did), I would have to agree with Stalin. No would really have to argue with the guy from Troy, Michigan at this point.
 -- Anonymous
 
Don't know that its so prophetic as it is a simple study of natural law through history. The US founders discovered natural law through Judeo-Christian history but it can be equally found through most major religions teachings and experiences. Logan explained this very well just the other day. I happen to be very Christian in belief (probably not so much in action) and understand how those laws promote charity, love of fellow man, prosperity for all, patriotism, morality, and spirituality. To pass codes, rules, ordinances, statutes, etc contrary to law fulfills Stalin's aspirations. Democracy, fascism, malefactor oligarchies, and all other forms of despotism and tyranny are recognized when America's originally principled patriotism, morality, and spirituality are subdued.
 -- Mike, Norwalk
 
And it happened on our watch. Great subject for my Saturday morning radio program. We broadcasts from WEZS 1350AM and stream live at wezs.com The Advocates 8:05-Noon Eastern. My self-financed program has been on since 1997. Niel Young bnyoung@metrocast.net
 -- Niel Young, Laconia,N.H.
 
 -- jim k, austin 
As for this quote,we could say that each person is a healthy body and their resistance is 3 fold and if these 3 areas are compromised,the Individual will collapse from within.
 -- Me Again
 
Had generally known that Stalin was an evil man and this shows him to be also hightly intelligent and incisive. For him to want to collapse healthy bodies is sick indeed. I disagree that he was prophetic, after all it is his empire that crumpled not ours and I guess from the grave he would admit that it was Americas healthy body of patriotism, morality, and spirtual life that did him in.
 -- Waffler, Smith, Arkansas
 
What is the source of this quote? I can't find it anywhere except on conservative blogs.
 -- BP, DC
 
He ought to know -- he killed millions of his own people after their own patriotism, families, and spiritual lives were weakened. It is gradually happening in the US. It all starts with the idea that the individual is subservient to the mob.
 -- E Archer, NYC
 
The only thing I want to know concerns E.K., the first respondant. Why do you think the VNam protests eroded patriotism, morality and spiritual life? I am so right-wing I'm off the scale, and I think those protests were VERY patriotic (in principle, but NOT by the NVA-flagwaving leftist bunch), and were against an immoral war. Stalin would be proud of how DC kept us in that useless, pointless war, run mostly by McNamara, who wrote that he was a computer guy who didn't have a clue of what he was doing.
 -- Paul, Union, WA
 
He forgot three others; independence, courage, and freedom. In actual fact he provided unwittingly, the three that would be our downfall, unless of course that's what he meant - silly me...
 -- RobertSRQ
 
Patriotism, morality, and spiritual life. The 3 basic building blocks shoring up the truth of freedom WITH responsibility, Spirituality is the first attack resulting in loss of faith in ones creator, No creator-no morality, and no morality creates limp wristed lip service patriots who are useless to all who are striving to right the injustice in the U.S, today. Our forefathers reminded us of this over and over and the controlled media suppressed it jst as fast as they said it. This quote could be attributed to any one of the New World Orderers past or present
 -- Dan Arthur, Ireland - U.S. by birth
 
The enemies of America know that they can't destroy her by force of arms. We are much too powerful. We can only be destroyed from within. So then it is up to us to determine our own future. Will we remain morally strong, or will we crumble? We were built on the backs of our fathers who were honorable, noble, and moral. We owe it to them to be the same type of people, as well as owing it to future generations to give them the same quality of life that we have enjoyed.
 -- Ken, Milford Pa
 
He must have been aquainted with Roger Baldwin, the founder of ACLU. He said basicaly the same thing only he added screwing up the leagal system also.
 -- warren, olathe
 
Communism is no longer in Russia or Eastern Europe...but thanks to the few loud mouth clueless liberals, mostly from Cali, its here, in America.
 -- Genna, Oceanside
 
Stalin was right on (for once). However, he had only to look at the fall of the Roman Empire to see it clearly. Based on Stalin, the U.S. doesn't have a very promising future.
 -- KG, Springfield, MO
 
I too would like to know the source of this "quote", since I have only seen it in connection with Right Wingnuts... Could it be another one of those right wing manufactured quotes?? Hmmm??
 -- Chas, Wichita, KS
 
Exactly, Chas. Where is the source for this quote? Communists like Stalin talk about "morality" all the time, so I'd be very surprised if he said this in these terms.
 -- NotStupid, Tampa, Florida
 
Shut up chas, your the type of idiot that tries to implant thought into peoples heads to make a feeble attempt to get them to question what they believe, so don't be an asshole!
 -- d, g
 
Chas, Stalin said this when he was explaining his evil plot to James Bond, just before he strapped him to the circular saw.
 -- Anonymous, Clacton, Essex
 
he didnt say that
 -- David, kampen
 
Fake quote.
 -- Jeff, Watertown
 
Having survived a communist regime for 17 years, this quote of Stalin is the most benign comparing to the many other demonic words and deeds he implemented on millions of people in my country, by proxy. So,those of you who are demanding the proof of this quote being said by Stalin, I do not wish you to experience communism ever, so I suggest you read more. Stalin's words are just a piece of cake compared to his brutality from the pit of hell. If you want more of what he said or done, it can be arranged, but prepare for humility as you will never be the same again. A communist survivor.
 -- HG, Louisville
 
You'd have to be retarded to think he actually said that. It's like that made up "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic," one.
 -- Adam, Omaha
 
So, Adam, Jeff and David Dumb, I guess that www.cpusa.org, for communist party usa, founded around 1919, which is operating today, supports the founders ideals?
 -- Anonymous
 
I'd personally like to know where, when and in what context this was said, because the only places i can find that have this particular quote appear to be hard-right American nationalists.
 -- Anonymous
 
Can you site your source? I can't find any reference to the original context.
 -- Meri, Davenport
 
The quote is true, whether it can be attributed to Stalin I do not know. What difference does it make who said it ... we know it is true by looking at history. That is exactly what Communists have done in many countries, and the result has been devastating to the people. WHY would anyone want to turn to a system that repeatedly fails, where people are treated like cattle, where there is poverty and misery .... when they have the example of America .... where freedom and success abound to the vast majority? To keep such freedoms, citizens must be vigilant to guard it, to vote WISELY with one's head rather than emotions and lies generated by left wing media sources. Hopefully America will vote wisely in 2012.
 -- Anonymous, Anaheim, Ca.
 
The quote is an absurdity. You effectively have Stalin praising America for it's virtues with that quote. Nowhere can I find the source for this supposed quote of Stalin's, and likely won't as it appears to be a fiction.
 -- Chuck, Morristown
 
This quote was never said by Stalin. Was else is inaccurate on this site?
 -- john, minneapolis
 
Agree: what difference does it make if Stalin said it or not. We better pay attention....if it is not already too late.
 -- Don Phillips, Fort Worth, TX
 
Why would atheist Stalin praise the virtues and morals of the USA, and why is this one of only 3 websites I have found that attribute this quote to him?
 -- Bill, Housatonic
 
This is a warning to be heeded. They are on our doorstep and yet you argue over stupid things that are irrelevant, like argueing over the speaker of the quote. My dear friends it is part of the Communist plan to destroy freedom, which in America is being taken away from us one right at a time. Why would thy want this? I do not know.What I do know is that they want this governmental system to be changed into their Communist form of government, which is spread through lies and other forms of propaganda. They speak as if Communism is the answer to all problems, parading equality. I say it will be equal. It will be equal when every one of us, the Americans are their slaves as they place the shackles of slavery onto us. What do we do in order to fix this? We must break through the ordinary bubble of our lives and realize that unless we do something. Our libery will not be taken away, but given away and replaced by the chains of slavery. We must do our patriotic duty and speak out, and really, truly work to fix this country and not like the old men (I beg your pardon) who just complain about it and never raise their finger to do a thing about it. a quick composition, I apologize for the crudity of it, but I have spoken my mind, and am not overly concerned about being politically correct, but I intend to make myself heard and change something (Hopefully) au revoir P.S. "They" are Communists
 -- Darth Bane, Veneta, OR
 
viva stalin
 -- amir, communism
 
Fake quote
 -- JT, Tallahassee
 
Fake quote
 -- glenn, dallas
 
There does not appear to be a source for this quote other than right-wing echo chambers. Calls for citation are going unanswered and those that call for citation are being attacked when a simple verifiable source could end the discussion. The fact that the myriad of supporting commentators are unable to provide any evidence would indicate it is false.
 -- K Ballard, Chelse
 
Fake quote. Odd that no one has been able to find a source in more than five years it's been floating around. Stalin regarded capitalism as terminal, on its last legs. He might have called America an unhealthy body, but not a healthy body.
 -- Ed Darrell, Dallas
 
Pretty sure this is a bogus quote. It's probably not even worth investigating because it's so outlandish.
 -- Amy, Stanwood
 
As to why it matters whether Stalin said it or not, what if instead of 'Stalin' it was attributed to Sam G. Smith of Topeka Kansas... Because Sam G. Smith has no political credentials. Attributing this quote to Stalin is simply arrogance or ignorance, unless a source can be cited. It's like attributing a quote to Jefferson or Lincoln that they simply never said, what's the point? what's the motivation? The quote may indeed stand on its own, then why not just let it?
 -- Anonymous, St. Louis
 
The quote is ATTRIBUTED and is stated as such. It is unnecessary to continue to post that the quote is fake -- it is indeed attributed to Stalin. Let the reader decide for him or herself the words, context, and lack of source. The quote exists wherever it came from and is posted as such. To further the discussion of Liberty, please comment on the content or principle of the quote. Thank you.
 -- Editor, Liberty Quotes
 
Attributed by whom? My grandpa fought in the second world war and while eating he overhear General Eisenhower speaking with one of his deputy officers. He said "Go Nazis!" Now obviously this didn't actually happen. But if I were to go out and tell this to some hippie magazine they could publish it and it could become "attributed." So what we're asking is who has said that Stalin said this, and can it be verified. Anyone who knows anything about Soviet history know that the "spiritual life of the people" was alleged by the Soviet leadership to be a high priority of legislation. Issues of moral and aesthetic value are actually explicitly discussed in speeches and legal documents so it is unlikely that a reliable audience can substantiate this term.
 -- Anon, Wonchester
 
Bogus. If we don't have some real history to recite, we are toast. Luckily we do, but let's not make things up to get a response out of each other. Embarrassing. Really
 -- eod, sacramento
 
These "dislikers" sound like they are trying to use Jedi mind tricks on us and failing horribly. I have a quote "Communisim is Evil" - me.
 -- Christ is the Way, Oakland Bay Area, Ca.
 
Making up phony quotes in an attempt to justify your religious and political views is pathetic. Getting testy and dealing in semantics (the quote is "attributed" to Stalin) when you're called on it shows a total lack of integrity.
 -- anon, Detroit, MI
 
Phony. Depicting Stalin as fearful and envious of American "virtues" is ridiculous! You have all the dim-wits and Christians pounding their chest with false patriotism though... Like teasing a ball with a dog!
 -- Navy Man, San Diego
 
Does anyone remember the movie that was based on this quote? I cannot remember the name, I think Chuck was in. It was 20+ years ago. This is not a new quote and who cares who said it, it is true and it is happening now. And, America needs to prove it is still a great nation, with strong men and women willing to fight and even die to keep it. We sadly are losing ground because no one wants to hurt someone's feelings ............think of your children, take a deep breath of freedom, it may be your last. WAKE up, the COFFEE is ready, so are our enemies within.
 -- Tsila, Atlanta
 
We are arguing and nit-picking whilst the ship of State irretrievably sinks. Unless we reawaken our love of God,and our love of Country we are doomed to spiritual poverty,to abject slavery to the liberal, communistic Demonrats, and the pain and shame of losing our country,which we were not manly enough to defend.
 -- Geoffrey Harman, Bonita- Ca.
 
 -- Jean Dodds, Ben Lomond, CA 
 -- Makes Sense, Providence 
Not a fake quote. The quote, statement continues with something like "America will collapse from within and we will walk into the U.S. without ever firing a shot"
This was being taught at the Moscow State University
I had the entire quote back in 1982 during World History.
 -- Craig, Atlanta
 
This strategm has ancient origination as we can see from the story of Balaam in the old testament. Balam was commissioned by the King of the Moabites to curse the children of Israel who had been brought out of Egypt by Moses. Balaam could not curse them, however, because the Lord intervened.

Instead, because he desired the riches extended by the King, he counseled him that the children of Israel could not be cursed unless they sinned and committed trespass against the Lord. After that, the Moabites went in to the children of Israel and enticed them to commit whoredoms and worship false gods. Such tactics have been used ever since to weaken and take possesion of nations.
 -- ceseme, Portland
 
For those of you who did not grow up during the 50's and 60's--the cold war era, there was such a quote. I cannot attribute it to a particular leader, but I remember hearing it back then. It was so shocking that most who lived during that time will have a vague recollection if they watched any news reports at all. I am pretty sure it was either Stalin or Kruschev.
 -- soledeb, Houston
 
I think you clowns that question the quote are the same clowns that voted the Ass clown into office. You are lied to every day. Something that comes out with validity and you want to know where it came from. It is part of you Alinsky plan. When the country goes to hell in a hand basket you will be the first one looking for help. Don't come South!
 -- Carl S, Coldspring
 
It doesn't matter if he said it or not. IT IS happening !!!!
 -- Thomas J., Philly
 
This is exactly something Stalin would say. Study Marxism, folks; it covers the foundations of Marxism, which is to destroy religion, especially Christianity, morality, and patriotism.

Don't you kids read?

As for those who say only those on the far Right believe this could be from Stalin, please do your homework: the far Right is Anarchy - no law at all - which always leads to a takeover, usually via military might. Think Marxist takeover, dictatorship, totalitarian take over. You know, the Left moves in.
 -- Anonymous, Sweden
 
This used to be on the counter under galss when I served in the USAF Strategic Air Command, 91st Missle wing and 5th Bomb wing..It has now come upon us I fear
 -- dave, nope
 
Watch AGENDA Grinding America Down http://vimeo.com/63749370

Then think about it....
 -- J.S, Yreka
 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/undermine.asp
 -- OldWhiteGuyVet, Birmingham, MI
 
Only those with closed minds will think the quote is outlandish. We are destroying ourselves from with-in, dirty music lyrics, sex, drugs, murder, and government lies. Do you really think two planes alone brought down the Twin Towers, do really think Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, do you really think the government is trying to stop drugs from entering this country, do you really think this country will not start another war. Why do people keep electing millionaires to become presidents, the President can only serve two terms, why not members of congress. I thought we the people were the government, and yet you let a few become your voice, go to war says the president, why not send him to do the dirty work, along with those in congress. If the president told you to jump off of a bridge for the good of the country you probably would. In other words the people in this country have loss the capacity to think for them selves. I don't have time to,think, not even for the sake my children. Now look what is going on, the government is getting into the drug business, "Marijuana" whats next. It looks like, since we can't stop them we may as well join them, after all why should the dealers get all of the money. Just like the government couldn't stop gambling, so all of the states got into the gambling business, At this point, I am pretty sure Americans will continue to give up their freedoms. Remember, when the bombs fall, the president and members of congress will be underground, and even then, many of you will say, oh, we got to protect them, because we can't think.
 -- Citizen, USA
 
 
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