"By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, or hatred and revolt."
James Madison
(1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
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Are there not those who have accomplished both: who have labored and been stewards of their own property, thus avoiding the "no-win" "choice ?
 -- Bob L., No. Ferrisburgh, VT     
    The focus here is on the ills of socialism - taking the fruits and labors of innocent individuals and giving it to a disinterested third party. A forced transfer of wealth for the benefit of the few. (by way of example: the poor Clintons, after leaving office they proclaimed only having their cherished pride while, their luxury, vanity, vice, servility and hatreds it fact, continued.
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
    Bob, the quote is referring to the 'ownership' of another's labor, not one's own labor. Servitude has taken on many socially acceptable forms -- that is, acceptable by those who benefit from such an arrangement. Debt slavery is the currently acceptable form -- mostly because the laboring classes do not understand how the system works.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
    Stealing from the taxpayer and giving to the loafers is wrong. This is what's going on in the USA, ever since FDR's new deal.
     -- Jim K, Austin     
    The greater the Agrarian society, less the need for merchants. Seeing long before by our Founding Fathers the ills of democracy ( tyranny by majority) imposed by the industrialist north and their interest of socialistic agendas. It is no wonder their was jealousy for the great agrarian culture of the nation, moreover the south. And for that fact the disruption, by way of war, the traditional rural society at Liberty. throughout the nation. Most have never heard of a time, when their were no exactions made upon a sovereign's person or property. Then we were Freemen. To complain about a socialistic society robing one to give to another, is a dog chasing its own tail. A game played by politicians for the amusement of the people. All the while never reversing the reality of the situation.
     -- Ronw13, Yachats Or     
    The good man's labor concentrates on the unification of all division. The good man's effort uses strong responsible human qualities to reveal that all property is to be shared by all in the preservation of the glory of the unique gift called life.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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    Sillik, promoting your lies about what a "good man" is or does, does not fall within any scope of truth or life's glory.
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
    Mike Norwalk calling me a liar is clearly misguided on on you part. A clear display of your ever present sick negative disposition. Good men I do know are positive.
     -- Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown     
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