"Together we have come to realize that for most men the right to learn is curtailed by the obligation to attend school."
Ivan Illich
(1926-2002) Austrian philosopher, author, social critic
Deschooling Society, 1971
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Kinda funny, I like it
 -- Mike, Norwalk     
    Is this ths same guy as I.I. Lenin leader of the fledgling Soviet Union. He agrees with Mike and all of these right wing nuts about education. It doesn not matter it would appear to him whether the school is home, chruch, or public. If something like schooling is so bad why does every talk about it but does not do anything about and keeps on schooling their kids. The answer adults got nothing better to do that to bitch.
     -- Waffler, Smith     
    Good grief Waffler. Were you drunk when you wrote that nonsense? You must have attended a government school judging from your sentence structure, spelling etc.
     -- jim k, austin     
    Yup, typically radical right wing plan, keep the populated uneducated at any cost... serfdom forever!
     -- Anonymous, Reston, VA, US     
    The same with most Austrian philosophers (OK, nearly all philosophers) women don't come into the big picture. Mike and Archer I did continue our thread on the last post if you wish to go back and continue our conversation. Jim, don't judge a person on his grammar judge instead on intent. Yes, we only want the wealthy educated.
     -- RBESRQ     
    Isn't interesting that liberety.tree does not use the name Lenin when the quote is something that the right wing nuts will agree with.
     -- Anonymous     
    Yeah I was a bit groggy this AM. It happens!
     -- Anonymous     
    A from Reston & Waffler, the lefters (as per your dialog) and righters are working on dumbing down America. Both want their own version of dumb while the combination of the 2 has been an ultimate devastation to the freedom and liberty once established.
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
    Are Waffler and Anonymous one and the same blogger? Where Waffler appears to be been under the table, to say the least, Anonymous anwsers, "Yeah I was a bit groggy this AM. It happens!" after Jim K''s wondering about his sobriety. Hmmm
     -- just wondering ..., here and there     
    The liberals here want a "one shoe fits all" way of education. Better get themselves two left ones!
     -- cal, lewisville, tx     
    "right wing nuts about education..." Code for "Real Americans" who are tired of a corrupt system eh Waff? Now they're (DHS) calling war veterans and anyone who owns a gun a "right wing nut". Oh well, whoever has the most guns wins.
     -- J Carlton, Calgary     
    The quotation is fine, the commentary sucks, and some has been touched upon, but to suggest that to judge someone by their grammar is underhanded is only something an uneducated person would do. Indeed, judge a fool by his words and his inability to express himself, because he foolishly chose that path. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
     -- rocketmi, Upland     
    "Is this ths same guy as I.I. Lenin leader of the fledgling Soviet Union?" No, Waffler, it is not Lenin. And yes, Waffler often posts as Anonymous for little quips. We usually update the posts with his name, but since it has been mentioned in this thread, we will leave it as is.
     -- Editor, Liberty Quotes     
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