"Kings had always been involving
and impoverishing their people in wars,
pretending generally, if not always,
that the good of the people was the object."
by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:
February 15, 1848, letter to William Herndon.
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That about sums it up.
 -- E Archer, NYC     
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    As have Presidents and Congressmen.
     -- Logan, Memphis, TN     
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    As long as excessive nationalism exists this will be the raison d'etre of thos in power.
     -- EGL, LA     
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    Now, doesn't that sound familiar - look how that same reasoning was use to invade Iraq. We will only attain peace when the spirit of the warrior refuses to fight for reasons of power, greed, and monopoly - when individuals become educated, compassionate, and tolerant. Wars are fueled by the fire of ignorance and hatred. Man’s second leap into this world may never have the chance to materialize unless we start again to nurture the flames of enlightenment, kindness and self understanding. Good, I got that off my chest…
     -- Robert, Sarasota     
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    This from the man who would soon start the civil war? The South was within its rights to secede from the Union if they wanted to. I see Lincoln as the first President to obviously ignore and disrespect the Constitution of the United States.
     -- Joe, Rochester, MI     
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    Lincoln's quote was a self fulfilling prophesy; the war between the states was impoverishing to the north and devastating to the south. Now we have one unconstitutional nation under atheism.
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    Robert's comment is quoteable.
     -- EGL, LA     
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    You nailed it Joe.
     -- Mike, Mount Holly, NC     
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    A good description of our own King George...
     -- Anonymous, Reston, VA US     
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    This reasoning has been used throughout the ages and now they have the media in their pocket it is disastrous. Robert, well said, yes, we should quote you on this - probably, one of the top comments made on LibertyTree. Well done! Is RBE your initials?
     -- Robken     
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    Joe said it right.
     -- jim k, Austin, Tx     
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    Mike you must be Joking - "a nation under atheism" :America is as far from atheism as America is from peace. It's battle cries, carrying the cross and waving the flag can been seen by all nations. Really, that was a very silly comment. If America was a nation under atheism perhaps we would have peace and not have nationalism and capitalistic war mongers making war under the banner of God. Anybody, who is anybody, knows that America is the most religious country in the western world. Look what happened to the Americas when white religious fundamentalist's converted the indigenousness population while at the same time spreading smallpox and other disease's (genocide). Your comment does not reflect the true history of America - unbelievable. Religion is the curse of America, curse of the world, it has a history written in blood - As Gandhi said "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
     -- Robken     
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    Robert, you only forgot one thing, yes sir, ignorance, religion, hatred, and last but not least, oil. Now, we are in so deep, logic dictates a great war, coming soon to this planet. Humans just dont live long enough to get it right, by the time most reach the truth, thier life is over, and sadly, the power is handed to neophites.
     -- anon, anon     
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