"The voice of the majority is no proof of justice."
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Johann von Schiller
[Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller]
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Which is why the Kingdom of God is coming.
 -- David L. Rosenthal     
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    The majority is "democracy". A republic is rule of law, which leads to justice.
     -- Joe, Rochester, MI     
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    The voice of the majority is no proof of Truth either. The masses are relatively programmed in mind and opinion -- enough so that billions await the end of the world to solve all our problems. Yeah, that'll work... salvation by suicide.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    This quote brings to mind a favorite quote by Benjamin Franklin: "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote"
     -- Mike, Norwalk     
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    The media and propaganda machines (aka Politicians) can determine the majority - unless we are cognizant of the agenda and do something about it anything can be made the majority - look at the Lebanon 90% of those polled said they are for the Hezbollah - it's like polling any partisan group there's always 10% who disagree.
     -- Robert, Sarasota     
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    Archer: You are right when you say that the voice of the majority is no proof of Truth either. Chrisitians are not taught to wait for the end of the world to solve all of their problems. And suicide is not an issue for those who obey God. You have very little understanding, as do many who consider themselves Christians, of the issues you bring up. I continue to believe that you must be about 19 years old, or younger.
     -- David L. Rosenthal     
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    David, you must be the poster boy for political Christian correctness. So sure of the indoctrination received since youth and eager to impose it upon everyone else. What you do not know about Common Law, Liberty, and history would fill the Library of Congress. Whether my age is 19 or 99, you exhibit very immature and narrowminded traits in your 'arguments' for prohibition, the purpose of government, and Christian salvation. There is nothing I despise more than bad arguments for views I hold dear.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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    Archer: I was brought up in a Jewish home. I began to learn about Christianity when I was almost an adult. I am hardly what could be called a good Christian, though I believe in Jesus. I wonder why, since my views are so ill-formed, that you have not been able to effectively contradict them. You are a sophist. Your arguments are baseless tripe. I am sure that you are smoking pot right now. And I perceive that you hold dear the right to do anything you wish, which is repulsive and condemnable.
     -- David L. Rosenthal     
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    Archer: You wrote "What you do not know about Common Law, Liberty, and history would fill the Library of Congress." Actually, it already does.
     -- David L. Rosenthal     
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    Now now only the ignorant man becomes angry (Indian Wisdom) I think we need a little of that. In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place - Gandhi
     -- Anonymous     
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    Glad to hear you admit what little you know about Law and Liberty, David.
     -- E Archer, NYC     
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     -- Anonymous, Reston, VA US      
    Archer wins. Ad populum. Yawn.
     -- anonymous     
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    Natural law, sweeps away superstition by way of God's laws and order. The Kingdom of God is within, and comes not with observation. Newton, Franklin, Chladni, and a Host of others new these Truths. The Lamb of Liberty well ( armed ). To behold, say the work of Newton and how he arrives at his conclusions based upon his work, pondering the ( stone ). There are two basic mind sets in the camp. One Cardinal the other ordinal. Ordinal moving clearly upon the line of judgment graduating date with ( theory ) of number. to match ( celestial, earthly ) The other Cardinal. Based on historical fact and observation of numbered order. This encompassing all ( Terrestrial, heavenly ) and Celestial, earthly realms. Joining together, as Paul states clearly in Ephesians Joining together things in heaven, and things on the earth. Comprehending the breath, length, depth and height. " The Kingdom of God " and his garden. Within the congregation there is an Associational Core. Reached only through testimony. And this is first hand knowledge. There is no reason to believe we are at an end ! But a new beginning !
    If any wish to bring debate or dialog along these lines of things, speak on, the world is listening. ( We ) as an Associational core, are not given to doubtful disputations or superstition through lack of knowledge. But state clearly what you see or the lack of seeing. These men sat at the same table, but on different sides. " Behold, I show you a mystery, We shall not all sleep. " Newton does push things to far down the road , he was given to theory.
     -- Ron w13, Or     
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    This is also termed ( manifold wisdom ) . We labor unto the Kingdom, as Paul states, but was made perfect in understanding so as to teach. He having received the gift of mercy and the ministry of the word. being given a dispensing. There are 4 dispensations only. As declared by natural order.
     -- Ron w13, Or     
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    Ron, w13, what on earth are you talking about.
     -- jim k, austin tx     
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    Good question Jim, Our founding fathers held within their " Think tank " a core of understanding and illustration of Gods laws of nature in action. Brought out by illustration. Numerical order being the guide. These illustrations are not shared with the public. They are a Phenomena observed. mirroring the heavens themselves. Long before there was a telescope the image was already known. As with the Butter fly nebula and others. The heavens declare the glory ( knowledge ) of God. Psalm 19. The effect of Chladni's law is a very, very old law. Nodal lines appear unto the individual called to receive this knowledge. Government always want to know something first, to take advantage, They do not like it when somebody gets something they know is there, but it is not theirs for the taking ! It is a Phenomena they do not like ! A true revelation ! The powers that be can detect when it takes place. But they will not tell you how ! They are afraid of the power ! Hence the battle to tear God from our country. God is real and obviously reveled himself to a certain degree with some of our founding fathers. Some aware and others very sure ! This is not superstition but fact reveled. We can go into more detail but would not be prudent. It is best to know God ordained the ancient doctrines of liberty and freedom. As far as the republic, we seek after that which good is. King David was set upon a great stone, in a large room. He was the apple of Gods eye.
     -- Ron w13, Or     
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    I repeat, what the heck are you talking about.
     -- jim k, austin tx     
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    Natural law and the fundamentals of presentation in a ordered manner through illustration. Reveling Liberty and freedom at its source of inspiration. It is not something you run across at the corner store or at a local bible college or church. To keep it simple, the hand of and guiding arm of the LORD we lean on as a nation. Washington spoke the words, and it is enough to know they are there ! The gov does ! no doubt. And those that do have insight are not speaking. They observe the knowledge brought forth and what to become of it. Stage set .
     -- Ron w13, Or     
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